master
1:07 Thu Oct 25
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Grasping. At. Straws.*
*paper ones, not plastic.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
1:02 Thu Oct 25
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Both the major parties plus UKIP has pro-Leave manifestos. Therefore, according to your methodology there is about an 75-25 majority in favour of Brexit. Clearly, you can't be allowed to appropriate abstainers to you side, as you always do.
You're a tedious, sore loser with no argument.
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12:55 Thu Oct 25
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Parties publish an election manifesto and if elected they have a fixed term to enact their promises. That is the deal we all buy in to and work starts on the day following election. Under our system of unrepresentative democracy this manifesto programme is carried out by the government with generally at best the will of 25% of the electorate.
The public at large get on with this because they know in several years time it might be possible to change things. For me it is wholly wrong that by next March we will leave the EU based on a narrow result from nearly three years ago when nobody at that time can honestly say what is being done is the will of the March 2019 electorate.
What are Brexiters so scared of............finding out that by then they will be a minority?
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Lee Trundle
12:45 Thu Oct 25
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Observing comma constantly cry over LOSING this referendum has got to be one of the highlights of it.
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Kaiser Zoso
12:44 Thu Oct 25
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Well, your idiotic argument doesn't even withstand that statement.
By the time the government start to implement their manifesto, you could use your pathetic logic again, and claim it's not necessarily the will of the electorate - although you wouldn't know without asking, so round and round your stupid argument goes.
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12:39 Thu Oct 25
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Well I speak only for myself and for me when we have local and general elections the result is enacted forthwith.
The thing about the referendum is that being a close run thing there is no guarantee, nearly three years later, that leaving the EU is the will of the people. The more so as there has been electoral churn.
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Mike Oxsaw
12:27 Thu Oct 25
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People voted out knowing there was at least a 2 year time lag - or at least those that voted to leave did.
Are remainers saying that because the time lag was irrelevant in the case of a remain victory, it's irrelevant in all cases (and therefore renders the result null & void)?
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Kaiser Zoso
12:15 Thu Oct 25
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I wouldn’t want to, it’s a nonsensical argument.
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12:02 Thu Oct 25
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At the same time perhaps you could prove how what will happen next March is what the majority then want.
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Kaiser Zoso
11:58 Thu Oct 25
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Perhaps you can explain how the result of the referendum could ever have been current, given A50 terms for leaving?
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11:50 Thu Oct 25
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Chrisel, the real question is should the UK be doing something, that he majority of the electorate in March 2019 are against, because the different electorate of 2016 were for it?
The fact is that next March the UK will be leaving and nobody can say it’s the will of the electorate without putting it to the test at the time.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
11:33 Thu Oct 25
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Chrisel
the difference is that when the Leavers lost in the 1970s they had to wait 40 years for another vote. Almost nobody bitched about the result for a decade at least. And quite rightly, nobody took any notice until first the Tories in 1993 and then Labour in 2007 denied us a referendum for the massive Treaty changes of Maastricht and Lisbon.
Your lot seem to want another vote before we've even left. The two things are not even remotely comparable.
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Chrisel
10:55 Thu Oct 25
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... some have fought for 40 years, yes.
Some haven't.
Some went on the march at the weekend.
Some didn't.
You are right, that more disagreed when they thought that what they voted for in the 70s wasn't actually what they were getting.
Some would argue that what they voted for a year ago isn't what they are getting now.
It's all the same.
I'm not taking sides other than to say that it is hypocritical to act a certain way then bitch when the other side act in the same way.
As I say, I don't want another referendum but I don't see any difference in the actions of the two sides.
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Hammer and Pickle
10:50 Thu Oct 25
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We want a trading bloc, not a political entity. We want to have our cake and we want to eat it now.
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
10:49 Thu Oct 25
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Chrisel 10:39 Thu Oct 25
Yes of course they can.
However, since we haven't left yet, they should do everyone a favour and shut the fuck up for a couple of years until we all know what it's like.
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Jaan Kenbrovin
10:45 Thu Oct 25
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orwells tragedy 10:15 Thu Oct 25
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Chrisel
10:39 Thu Oct 25
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SurfaceAgent
I don't necessarily disagree with you.
My point is that I am 43 years old and for as long as I've been politically aware there have been people shouting to get us out of the EU (or the EEU). If it is okay for them to go on about it for decades, it is also okay for the other side to do likewise. Fair's fair!
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
10:29 Thu Oct 25
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Chrisel 10:00 Thu Oct 25
I'm happy to have another referendum on the matter in 40 years time. Fair's fair.
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mallard
10:23 Thu Oct 25
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ooooh Morley Morley 1:26 Wed Oct 24
I agree, fucking embarrassing!
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Hammer and Pickle
10:19 Thu Oct 25
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A trading bloc has institutions and laws.
These evolve naturally as commercial activity grows.
A trading bloc that does not become a political entity over 40 years disappears and is taken over by other formations that are strong enough to become political entities with the rest of time.
The EU is a political entity. Suck it up, buttercup.
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